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MoO2 Uncreative race.

#1 Post by marhawkman » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:21 pm

What'd be the best way to use uncreative?

My current thoughts have wandered to Tolerant+Unification. Then pirate the heck out of my opponents.....
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#2 Post by utilae » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:26 pm

lithovore and subteranian are awesome.

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#3 Post by leiavoia » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:54 pm

Anything that gives you spying bonuses + lithavore makes a pretty potent combo. With enough spying bonuses, you can just steal everything. In a crowded galaxy, you'll be on top of the tech chart at all times. Caveats: don't expect to make any friends. You'll never get ahead in the tech race, but you'll never be behind either. You spend you time buildin ships instead. Mwuhaha...

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#4 Post by marhawkman » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:37 pm

Hmm... my latest idea(the Piries) uses Tolerant and Lithovore with Feudal and -2 ship attack. Swarm the galaxy like Lemmings!!!!! Works surprisingly well. I can make a brand new colony ship in about 8 turns..... without any tech... :shock:
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#5 Post by noelte » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:25 am

I guess, it depends on galaxy size....
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#6 Post by marhawkman » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:20 pm

noelte wrote:I guess, it depends on galaxy size....
I always go with huge. That way there's at least a little elbow room.

I'm thinking about trying Subterranean+Transdimensional though. and take out tolerant.
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#7 Post by utilae » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:47 pm

I normally do (at least I think this is it):
Subteranian
Lithovore
Research + 1
Dictatorship
Low G World
Worst Spying
Worst Ground Combat
Large Homeworld

I've been owning the enemy. However, more recently I got a hold of this thing that lets you mod races, ie choose what pics they are gonna be and put in new race pictures. And it certinaly makes them tougher. I made a few lithovores and they spread pretty fast.


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#8 Post by marhawkman » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:07 am

hmm... interesting...

I thought about trandimensional but it won't work. SubT is 6 and TransD is 5.......

so I went with Feudal, -2 ship attack, (obviously) Uncreative, and, Lithovore, SubT, Large homeworld, and Omniscient.

Omniscient is not to be under estimated. knowing where all the goodies are makes for a devastating advantage. Not to mention the way it lets you sucker punch enemies.

BTW, having a home world with a max population of 24 is great!!

I don't like low-g or the -g combat since I Mug the heck out of the Antarans. And the AIs too if I get the chance.
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#9 Post by noelte » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:25 am

I think utilae's choice is already quit good, but not perfect. :P Lithovore is good but overestimated, democracy is much more important. I don't have all the points in my mind, but this choice leaves also 3 points for +2 research.

This is proven to be the best combo for huge galaxies amoung friends in hundreds of multiplayer games. :) Other sizes might be different.
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#10 Post by utilae » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:36 pm

noelte wrote: I think utilae's choice is already quit good, but not perfect. :P Lithovore is good but overestimated, democracy is much more important. I don't have all the points in my mind, but this choice leaves also 3 points for +2 research.
Actually I think thats what I left out. I get +1 Production and +2 Research:
eg.
Subteranian
Lithovore
Research + 2
Production + 1
Dictatorship
Low G World
Worst Spying
Worst Ground Combat
Large Homeworld

Yeah, thats right.

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#11 Post by noelte » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:13 pm

... you just made me reinstall MoO2 ;)

i hope, i remembered correctly, it's been quite a while;)

Subterran
Democracy
Research+2

LowG
LargeHW
GroundCombat-10
Spying-10

The first three are the important one, The lower 4 can be exchanged a little.

LOL, nice try:
+ 6 -- Subteranian
+10 -- Lithovore
+ 6 -- Research + 2
+ 3 -- Production + 1
+ 0 -- Dictatorship
- 5 -- Low G World
- 3 -- Worst Spying
- 2 -- Worst Ground Combat
+ 1 -- Large Homeworld
- 10 -- free race pics
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so you spend 6 points more than you could... :PPPP, or do you play a mod????
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#12 Post by marhawkman » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:44 pm

I'd rather have weak ship attack than weak ground combat. Weak ground combat means it's murder trying to hijack Antaran ships.

Speaking of which..

The "Carjackistanis"!

Creative, democracy, -20 ship attack, -spying,...


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#13 Post by utilae » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:08 am

noelte wrote: LOL, nice try:
+ 6 -- Subteranian
+10 -- Lithovore
+ 6 -- Research + 2
+ 3 -- Production + 1
+ 0 -- Dictatorship
- 5 -- Low G World
- 3 -- Worst Spying
- 2 -- Worst Ground Combat
+ 1 -- Large Homeworld
- 10 -- free race pics
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so you spend 6 points more than you could... :PPPP, or do you play a mod????
Oh sorry, I had to go back into Moo2 to check. Now I remember. I use two different setups:

Setup 1 - Science & industry variation
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+10 -- Lithovore
+ 6 -- Science + 2
+ 3 -- Industry + 1
+ 0 -- Dictatorship
- 5 -- Low G World
- 3 -- Spying -10
- 2 -- Ground Combat -10
+ 1 -- Large Homeworld
- 10 -- free race pics

Setup 2 - Subterranean variation

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+ 6 -- Subterranean
+10 -- Lithovore
+ 3 -- Science + 1
+ 0 -- Dictatorship
- 5 -- Low G World
- 3 -- Spying -10
- 2 -- Ground Combat -10
+ 1 -- Large Homeworld
- 10 -- free race pics

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#14 Post by marhawkman » Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:27 pm

O~O I never did like low-g.... You could swap it with Feudal and take out large homeworld.
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