Thirteenth game on the multiplayer slow game server

[o01eg]

I would like to try something: apply a random multiplier between -25% and 50% (to be determined) to each individual tech and production cost. How hard would it be to implement this?

If possible, apply this for each tech/prod per player, so that everyone has different costs. Might make things much more interesting.

It's hard even equal values for all empires because you need to distribute chosen values to players. Current implementation will require to generate game rule per tech.

If we want separate values for each player I don't even have ideas about possible implementation.

[Ophiuchus]

I would like to try something: apply a random multiplier between -25% and 50% (to be determined) to each individual tech and production cost. How hard would it be to implement this?

If possible, apply this for each tech/prod per player, so that everyone has different costs. Might make things much more interesting.

If we want separate values for each player I don't even have ideas about possible implementation.

Probably would need to expand FOCS randomness conditions with a supplied seed (and then use player id and game seed to get consistent results over the game for a single player).

It's hard even equal values for all empires because you need to distribute chosen values to players. Current implementation will require to generate game rule per tech.

that would be the scripting-lang/KISS implementation I think.
randomness with supplied game seed would also work here.

too wonky for mainline i guess and too much work for a prototype?

[o01eg]

I would like to try something: apply a random multiplier between -25% and 50% (to be determined) to each individual tech and production cost. How hard would it be to implement this?

If possible, apply this for each tech/prod per player, so that everyone has different costs. Might make things much more interesting.

If we want separate values for each player I don't even have ideas about possible implementation.

Probably would need to expand FOCS randomness conditions with a supplied seed (and then use player id and game seed to get consistent results over the game for a single player).

It's hard even equal values for all empires because you need to distribute chosen values to players. Current implementation will require to generate game rule per tech.

that would be the scripting-lang/KISS implementation I think.
randomness with supplied game seed would also work here.

too wonky for mainline i guess and too much work for a prototype?

If we use seed then order of processing MUST be same on the server and all clients. Rules are little simpler to manage as we can automatically generate rule when parse tech.

[Oberlus]

What do others think? I'll found it interesting to try 3vs3 with random teams when we find 6th player.

Ophiuchus, would you like to join knowing that someone from your alliance would be able to take over your account if you need a leave?

[Ophiuchus]

If we use seed then order of processing MUST be same on the server and all clients. Rules are little simpler to manage as we can automatically generate rule when parse tech.

I don't agree on seed and order, probably I miscommunicated.

Generating rules and values at parse time would indeed be trivial and ok for a prototype

[Ophiuchus]

What do others think? I'll found it interesting to try 3vs3 with random teams when we find 6th player.

Ophiuchus, would you like to join knowing that someone from your alliance would be able to take over your account if you need a leave?

Yes, 3vs3 fixed alliance s also means basically no diplomacy, so I would like to join

[Oberlus]

Yes, 3vs3 fixed alliance s also means basically no diplomacy, so I would like to join

YES.

[Oberlus]

So... o01eg, when do we start?

[o01eg]

So... o01eg, when do we start?

I'll back Monday to my PC so tomorrow I'll start a test game and next day will be a actual game.

If someone else want to join this game you need find a pair to have even count of players.

[swaq]

It seems I lost the ability to connect to my XMPP account so I made a new one: <redacted>

[o01eg]

Test game is started! Check if you could login, don't have checksum mismatch and so on.

[Oberlus]

Test game is started!

Are teams definitive or these in the test game are just random?

[o01eg]

Test game is started!

Are teams definitive or these in the test game are just random?

Teams are randomly assigned at start.

[Oberlus]

Teams are randomly assigned at start.

So when we start the real game teams will be shuffled again, right? Cool.

[ThinkSome]

Sitrep "Last" button is broken. Current turn is 165, but it takes me to sitrep for turn 164.