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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:04 pm 
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Though I mentioned this in general guidelines, I think it is worth of topic of its own.

Currently we are using Creatice Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported licence for all graphics in FreeOrion.

Shortly: people are free to copy, modify and make commercial products based on graphics used in FreeOrion but we have to be credited and they have to share their products in similar way.

I hope you all can agree with this. You cannot submit artwork for freeorion without accepting this.

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Good. Generally what I was going to allow you to do with my art (should you use it). Glad to know we have a licence set in "stone"

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:32 am 
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I read up a bit on the license and have a question:

If i make a commercial work using FreeOrion art assets, can i distribute the work without publishing the rest of it under the CC license as well? For instance, if i create SomeGame and use a few of the FO graphics in it, do i have to publish all of SomeGame's graphics under the CC license? Do i have to keep the FO graphics used in the game separate from the game's native graphics?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:32 am 
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My understanding is that you would need to include the FreeOrion art with the product under the same license, but other artwork of your own would not be required to be released under the same license.

But I couldn't say for sure, sorry.


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Note to artists: We will be using the 2.5 version of this license, not the 2.0. If you have an issue with your artwork being included under the new license please let us know. The main differences are listed below (courtesy of Yoghurt):

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:50 pm 
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This was posted to the freeorion-programmers list. If no one objects, I'm going to do as Ender suggests in a week or so.

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Hello, developers. As some of you may know, I am maintaining the Debian
package for FreeOrion.

A couple of weeks ago I finally uploaded a package to the Debian archive, and
the FTPmasters rejected it due to the license that govern the artwork and
sounds (CC Attribution-Share-Alike 2.5) being 'non-free'. I investigated the
issue and this is my summary and petition.


It seems that Debian raised some concerns time ago about the CC 2.0 and 2.5
licences, some of them summarized in this article:

http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html

Basically, the debian-legal team evaluated all the licenses and found
problems. Those concerns made CC-licences < v3.0 non-compliant with the DFSG
(Debian Free Software Guidelines), that you can get in

http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

The key issues were:

* A creator could request that downstream distributors remove all
references to him or herself.
* Requirements for attribution were too vague.
* The anti-DRM clause was too broad.
* The restrictions on use of the trademark "Creative Commons" were too
strict.

In fact, the discussions with MIT and Debian were the seed for version 3.0 of
licenses. In February of 2007, Creative Commons finally published the CC
licenses v3.0, that basically addressed almost all the problems. You can
find a summary of what the changes are in:

http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7249

In particular, the Debian issue is explained in a long writing:

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Version_3#Debian

The debian-legal team found almost acceptable the new license (save for some
DRM-related issues):

http://evan.prodromou.name/Debian_Creat ... oup_report

Debian would prefer a “parallel distribution language” to allow the release
of CC-licensed works under DRM by licensees on certain conditions, but this
hasn't been included in the current set of licenses.

Oh, and I have checked with the Debian FTPmasters that we are currently
accepting CC-SA v3.0 as a free license.


By all the above, I beg you to change the license of FreeOrion's art and
sounds from CC-SA 2.5 to CC-SA v3.0. The main advantages for me are:

- Some obscure points from the license have been really clarified.
- The license has been removed of its U.S.A. roots and made a generic
(namely 'unported') license, in order to adequate to every jurisdiction.
- Maybe in Debian we are quite strict about what we include inside, but I
think that is a problem you will have to face sooner or later.
- Inclusion of FreeOrion in Debian is a really good thing, and we should work
towards that. I have seen many times how a broad userbase brings new blood
and developers to a project, or even simply patches for this and that.

I have seen that you made a switch from v2.0 to v2.5 not much time ago. I
would like to propose another change to v3.0, if the artwork team, sounds
team and the project leader have no problem in it.

Sincerely,


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:04 am 
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Sounds fine to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:45 pm 
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Go for it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:14 pm 
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I will take that for a thumbs-up, as I was waiting to take a snapshot from the SVN after the license change.

Thank you very much for your support,


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:31 am 
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Hello there. It's been some time since I said I would take a SVN snapshot. Now I had the time to do it and I've seen that you have not modified default/COPYING, could you please do it? I am going to modify it in my local copy, but it must be in the upstream repository.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:21 am 
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Done.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:27 am 
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pd wrote:
Done.

You only changed the name and URL, but not the actual text of the licence. I'll fix it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:36 am 
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:)

I thought it's just the small part at the top(hence the link) and the rest belongs to the GNU stuff. Time for bed, I guess.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:44 am 
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pd wrote:
:)

I thought it's just the small part at the top(hence the link) and the rest belongs to the GNU stuff. Time for bed, I guess.

There's a link for the GPL as well. We use both licences, so have the text of both in the COPYING file.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:52 am 
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Thanks for the fast reply, Geoff!

I am uploading just now Debian packages for libgigi0 and freeorion to http://ftp.es.debian.org/~ender, in case someone wants to test them.

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